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Rolex Submariner Date 16610LV “Kermit”
Produced 2003 to 2010. Discontinued.
- Replaced by the Rolex Submariner Date 116610LV
The Rolex Submariner Date 16610LV, known as the Kermit, is a 40mm stainless steel watch with the calibre 3135, water resistant to 300 meters, made 2003 to 2010.
Specifications
- Nickname
- Kermit what the name means
- Case size
- 40mm, 12.8mm thick
- Case material
- Stainless steel
- Bezel
- Unidirectional with 120 clicks, green anodized aluminum insert; the earliest inserts carry the Flat 4
- Dial
- Black Maxi dial with enlarged markers and hands, green-glowing Super-LumiNova
- Movement
- Rolex calibre 3135, automatic
- Power reserve
- About 48 hours
- Water resistance
- 300 meters
- Crystal
- Flat sapphire, with Cyclops lens over the date
- Bracelet
- Oyster bracelet, reference 93250, with solid end links, hollow center links and a stamped clasp with a wetsuit extension Part number, lug width and links
- Bracelet part
- 93250, per Rolex's 2008 price list
- Lug width
- 20mm
The story
Rolex introduced the 16610LV at Baselworld in 2003 to mark fifty years of the Submariner, the first time green had been used in the collection. It was a special model, not a limited or numbered edition, and Monochrome Watches and Fratello both describe it as normal production that ran until 2010. Underneath it is the same watch as the black 16610: a 40mm steel Oyster case rated to 300 meters, a flat sapphire crystal with a Cyclops over the date, a Triplock crown and the calibre 3135, a chronometer-certified automatic beating at 4Hz with about 48 hours of power reserve and a quickset date.
Two things set it apart. The bezel insert is anodized aluminum in metallic green rather than black, and the dial is the one collectors came to call the Maxi dial, with enlarged applied markers and broader hands, a layout Rolex later carried onto the ceramic generation. Collectors have since catalogued the small changes across the run: Monochrome counts two cases and five bezel inserts, and Fratello describes several dial marks, with the earliest Mark I dial showing shorter minute markers between 28 and 32.
The insert everyone asks about is the Flat 4, where the top of the 4 in the 40 marker is flat instead of pointed. Fratello states that only the 2003 Y-serial and 2004 F-serial watches carry it, and later inserts have a pointier 4. The green also varies, from the olive of the first B1 insert through shamrock and emerald tones, and some inserts have faded to an olive that collectors call a Bertolli. In 2010 the 116610LV, the Hulk, replaced it with a green dial and a green ceramic bezel.
What to check before you buy
Because the green insert lifts out in minutes, a Flat 4 insert on a later watch is possible and worth checking against the serial letter: Fratello ties the Flat 4 to the 2003 Y and 2004 F serials only. Expect the green to have shifted, since Fratello notes that this insert fades more readily than the black one, and judge the tone against the dial mark and the case rather than assuming a mismatch means a swap.
The bracelet feels light because the center links are hollow, and the clasp is stamped steel with four adjustment holes and a wetsuit extension, with no tool-free micro-adjustment; all of that is correct for the reference, not a sign of replacement parts. Monochrome notes that the crown and bezel on a used Kermit can feel less firm than on a new ceramic Submariner, so some play is age rather than a fault, but a bezel that slips or skips clicks needs a watchmaker. As with any 16610, compare the lug bevels against photos of an unpolished case before paying for a sharp one.
Buying or selling a 16610LV?
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Common questions
Why is the 16610LV called the Kermit?
For its green aluminum bezel insert, a first for the Submariner when it arrived in 2003. The green-dial 116610LV that followed in 2010 picked up the name Hulk.
Was the Kermit a limited edition?
No. Rolex released it in 2003 to mark the Submariner's fiftieth anniversary, but Monochrome Watches and Fratello both describe it as a regular production model with no limited run or numbering, made until 2010.
What is a Flat 4 bezel?
An early insert on which the top of the 4 in the 40 marker is flat rather than pointed. Fratello states that only the 2003 Y-serial and 2004 F-serial watches have it, and it is the most sought-after version.
How does the Kermit differ from the black 16610?
Only in the green bezel insert and the Maxi dial with enlarged markers and hands. The 40mm case, 300-meter rating, sapphire crystal with Cyclops and calibre 3135 are shared.
How is the 16610LV different from the 116610LV Hulk?
The Hulk of 2010 has a green dial, a green ceramic Cerachrom bezel, a broader case with thicker lugs and a Glidelock clasp. The Kermit has a black dial, an aluminum insert and a slimmer case with a stamped clasp.
Related references
Sources
The facts on this page come from the brand and from established watch publications.
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